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Monday, April 22, 2013

Withdrawing to moneybookers,from there to my bank



My money was processed to moneybookers from freelancer on the given date.I at once started to transfer the money from moneybookers to my bank account in Bangladesh.I had already selected Mutual Trust Bank in moneybookers,and my address was verified before.So I withdrew the money.It was processed in the moneybookers side that day,but I received the money after eight day in Bangladesh.One of the clerks at the Mutual Trust Bank called me and asked me what was the remittance source.I told  them it was freelancing and they deposited the money on my bank account.The next day I went to the atm and got my money.

I knew beforehand that Dutch Bangla Bnak Limited cuts 20$ from the tolat money,as they use a via bank or middle bank.Another bamk,Brac Bank had started cutting 15$ from December 2012 .So I decided to take a chance with Mutual Trust Bank ,and they did’t cut a penny from the original money!
Most freelancers in Bangladesh use Brac or DBBL to transfer money,and they are very angry with the cutting of 15/20 dollars from the total money.I’m glad I did my research online and decided to go with Mutual Trust Bank.
Same is the case in many other countries.My advice is don’t just select the most obvious bank, do a little research first.

Conversation with the buyer:



This is my reply to when I buyer asked what I would need to start my work
  I'll need access to your joomla backend user/pass.and also to your hosting cPanel user/pass.i'll first install a new 2.5 and then finish the conversion and replace the old one with the new”

So be clear about what you need to start the work, if possible state the reason why you need the information too.

After I had finished the work I sent him this message
 
   “hello site is done.i copied old articles and categories and introduced a new category frontpage for the featured posts.you did not provide any template so i got one.password is as you said”
 
As you can see I mentioned the using of new template here. Reply from the buyer was
    “The template to be used should have been the one already there! This was an UPGRADE between versions, not a re-design of the site. Hopefully you kept backup copies of what was there previously?”
 
I replied saying that in joomla its not possible to keep the old template while updating to a new version and I wouldnt change it deliberately .Joomla uses templates based on its versions.a template for 1.0 will simply not work in 2.5.I also assured him that I did keep backup of the old site.I also suggested some similar black joomla templates.
Note that I did assure him of his question about backup.

Then I tried to change the template to a 2.5 version, which was failed. I asked him if it was possible to use just another template. He replied why the template was so important. 

     “As far as the template is concerned, the game itself is about Outer Space, so images like stars and planets. This is how it looked in v1.0. Could you possibly duplicate that for an additional fee? If not, that's OK, but I'll have to have someone else do that work. Let me know, please! Thanks.”

 
I started working on the template from a new angle and gave him the update
    “ okay i deleted the template folder and reuploaded it,now its working.i hope you are satisfied with the site “
 
I finished the template as far as I could but he didn’t reply and the job was not stated finished in freelancer site.So I waited for 2 days and asked him
      “is everything alright?im kind of waiting for the payment. “
 
Being a good man that he is, the buyer replied
           I'm going to need to get someone to re-work the original template in order to satisfy my customer, but I appreciate your attempt at it.”
 
       Would it be possible to zip the files from the old template so I can pass them along to whoever eventually re-creates it?Thanks.”
 
I told him the way I backuoed his site it’s still possible to revert to the old one anytime and use the old template to upgrade.
      “your old site is still there,renamed folder "joomlax",including the mysql database.and the template is there too.one can just rename the folder to "joomla" and upload the mysql db to see the old site.i'll send you the old template now”
And I also sent him the old template
 
    After one day he replied
    “I just sent you $22.50 in a milestone I had created previously, so please delete this invoice and send a revised one for the balance due which is $7.50. Thanks!”
 
Now the milestone was created at first when I started the work but it was not released, so I replied
   okay i just edited and sent you a 7.50 4INVOICE.ALSO I'VE REQUESTED THE 22.5 MILESTONE TO BE"RELEASED"”
 
Then there was this confusing conversation
      “I thought I released that milestone payment yesterday, but today it looks like it's not. But when I attempted to release it, it first said unavailable, and then had it broken into two parts - a $7.50 and a $15.00. So is that the $7.50 you just invoiced (and I paid) or is the original $22.50 milestone milestone broken into two parts? I'm SOOO confused!
 
I guess the question is this - how much have you received from me in total so far?”
My reply was
       i've received 15$ in milestone,but my account is showing 17.50$,this is confusing!anyway,i was charged 5$ by freelancer,so at best i'll receive 25$ from you.you need to release 7.50$ milestone and i'll have 17.50+7.50=25$ in total.thank you
also can you mark the project done or completed?thank you”

The job was then officially finished.
Then I encountered the 5$ problem. The help I asked from him was answered generously .
       hello,there has been a problem,i was hoping you could help me.I now have 25$ in my account,the lowest amount I can withdraw to mooneybookers is 30$.So I can not withdraw this 25$.And also,I can not bid on any new project as freelancer is saying I have 0 bids left.To get to bid on new projects,I need to pay .50$ from my moneybooker account to freelancer,which would not be a problem if I could move the 25$ to moneybooker in the first place.Can you help me in this situation?I need 5$ more in my freelancer.com acc to move the total of 30$ to moneybooker and then pay freelancer 50 cent to bid on new projects.Hoping to hear from you”
 
The buyer replied
       “Sure - you went above and beyond the scope of the work trying to fix the template for me, so I've sent a $5 bonus payment to you.”
 
Next I ran into the same kind of problem and sent him this
      hello,sorry to bother you again.i am having the same problem again.today i accidentally clicked on "take an exam"and it cost me 5$.had i known it,i would have never clicked.anyway,my balance is again 25$.i'm very much ashamed to ask you,can you help me again”
 This ends the conversation. He didn’t reply anymore.The problem was solved though, which you know by now.

Problem with withdrawing the money again



In freelancer there are many exam taking process, in which they give an exam with an amount of fee and upgrades my profile with the result.This is good for skill upgrade.
I had 30$ in my account and was waiting for it to be withdrawn to moneybookers.As a rule the first withdraw from freelancer takes some time.That is when the problem caused.
I accidentally clicked on “Basic English” exam,which cost me 5$ instantly.There was no “Are you sure you want to pay 5$ for this exam?” or any kind of confirmation.They just deducted 5$ from my account and presented me with the exam.
I was very very broken hearted.It was a mistake from my part,and now I can’t withdraw my money.I’ll have to wait for my next job.
I did not take the exam.I was not in the right mood for an exam.And honestly I felt cheated.They should’ve asked a confirmation before they took my 5$.You have to be careful too.
I asked my buyer for help againThis time he didn’t respond.He must’ve thought I was asking money again as he gave me money before.And I was like milking him.I’m not complaining against him.It was normal for him to suspect that.
Then I had an idea.What about asking freelancer to refund the money,as I haven’t yet taken the exam?This was part of my mail sent to them.

Refund exam fee
Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 11:52 AM
To: support@freelancer.com
username:……..
I had 30$ in my account and was waiting for it to be transferred to
moneybooker site.I accidentally clicked on an "English Exam buy"
button and now I've 25$ in my account.But freelancer does not allo
25$ to be transferred to moneybooker.I haven't taken the exam yet.Can you please cancel the exam and refund the 5$ so that I can move the 30$ to mooneybookers?I desperately need the money.
Thank you.


They replied saying it was not their policy to refund, but they made a special consideration in my case!


   “In general, our fees are non-refundable unless stated otherwise. However, we have reviewed and considered to refund the fees charged for the US English Level 1. Note that this was granted out of courtesy but for one time consideration only.”


On the next day,my 5$ was back!They did refund the money!I was so happy with freelancer then. They are reasonable people there as I can see.I thank them here today.

Problem with withdrawing the money



This was my first job at freelancer and the job was for 30$. Freelancer took 5$,and it left me with 25$.
But the minimum amount of money I could withdraw from them to moneybookers is 30$!This made me chilled to the bone.I was not sure when am I going to get a new job,pass the 30$ mark and withdraw the money.I was in need of that money too.
So I asked the buyer for help,being a very helpful and kind person,he sent me a 5$ bonus!You can see this portion in the Conversation part.
You may be thinking “Okay the problem is over”.Wait for the next part.

How I finished my first freelancer job



As you know now,it was a joomla up gradation job, from 1.0 to latest 2.5. The amount was 30$. Now there is no easy way to do this. You have to manually setup a new 2.5 site and then copy everything from 1.0 to there. Anyway, the  employer didn’t have a cPanel. I had to setup the new site in a free host, then copy everything and and move it to the original client’s website. It was a lot of work. But I did it by working for like 4/5 hours.
Then came the real problem. In upgrading joomla, I had set up a new site, and 1.0 templates doesn’t work in 2.5.And my employer had a custom made theme for the 1.0 site.
I used a theme picked by myself.And he didn’t like it at all.He wanted the template like before.
Then started the hardest part of the work. I tried to make the 2.5 template as much like the 1.0 template. It didn’t look much like it. But my employer was a good man and he gave me the money. He said he would have someone do the template for him. It somewhat finished the job.
But the problem was not over by a long shot.

How I got my first freelance job



The night I finished my profile making at freelancer, I got my first job there
There is a option where they show you jobs similar to what you chose in making your profile before, so I was browsing through them and saw some joomla and wordpress and site moving works. So I bid on them.
I bid the lowest on all of them.
And after some minute, I was awarded with my first job.
It was a joomla up gradation job, from 1.0 to latest 2.5

Making profile on freelancing sites



I started making profile on the two sites I thought were the biggest. I also tried to open a profile on another site, but it needed a national id card to complete it. So it’s at a paused state now.
Making profile at the sites is usually a long process. But you have to stick with it and finish it. I worked like 1 hour or more in each site to complete the profiles. They want previous experience there, and a portfolio option too. I used my three experience.
I made an html website and earned 1st prize in college annual science contest.
I made website for university department, which is a big thing.
I made a client site, this was my one and only online work that earned me money.
Now if you don’t have such works, don’t worry. They are really easy to learn. You can experiment and decide which type of website you want to develop. And you can do other stuff too. There are a lot of options to choose from at the freelancing sites.
Then came a part where you choose your area of expertise on the site. This helps in finding works later. The works that come up will be according to what you select at this stage. But you can’t select every type of work there. There are limits to how many work areas you can select.

Why I started freelancing



I had thought of earning money by freelancing before. I know pretty good joomla and how to host it, move it and related stuff.But when I went to freelancing sites all I saw was people asking for completely new plugins and components. I don’t know coding very much. I can change a part of a code to my suiting very easily. But making a new plugin or component was out of the question. It was all 3 years ago. So I decided to end my earning online by freelancing trial.
Then 3 years passed. All my friends are earning a good lot of money by private tutoring. I can tutor too. I’m like one of the best in my student career. For some reason it didn’t work out.
In the meantime, I had developed a joomla site for my university department. I had learnt a lot then. I was confident I could do some professional work.
Also I worked for a person at a typical small freelancing site and earned some bucks. He was very nice and western unioned me the money. He also bought me 10+7 domain names. So I had experience of working online. I thought I should give it a go with the big freelancing sites.

Wednesday, April 17, 2013

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Tuesday, April 16, 2013

About Us



I’m an independent freelancer. I do not have any kind of association with any coaching center or tutorial center. I’m just by myself. The experiences of my freelancing hours are narrated in this website.
There won’t be any kind of wrong or biased information here, only the facts I obtained by working in various freelancing websites.
I’m not a professional freelancer; I’m a student and a freelancer, which may be also true for many of you. The information depicted here may help you if you face same kind of problem in freelancing sector like me.

Monday, April 8, 2013

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